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The Ground Shots Podcast is an audio project exploring our relationship to ecology through conversations and storytelling


How do we do our work in the modern age, when the urgency of ecological and social collapse feels looming? How do we creatively and whole-heartedly navigate our relationships with one another and the land?

 

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The podcast explores story, connection, heart and grit : what drives people to love our earth, creatively express ideas and passions about our world, tend the wilds or walk long distances?

I'm interested in the ways in which we can find bridges of commonality with the land as our shared interest and concern. 

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Episode #90: Wind Clearwater. 20 years of permaculture in the desert

March 31, 2026

This episode of the Ground Shots Podcast is with Wind Clearwater, a horticulturist and permaculturist who lives near Hotchkiss, Colorado.

For over 30 years, Wind Clearwater has been dabbling in horticulture, permaculture and landscape design. For the past 20 years, he has expanded his knowledge of these arts alongside skills like natural building, while living off grid in western Colorado at the Oasis. The Oasis is a land project that Wind has stewarded during this time where he has tended the ‘Forest Garden,’ a successful dry-land food forest over two decades. He propagates native and edible nursery stock for the Oasis Nursery, which sells desert adapted plants in the region. When he’s not working with plants he finds joy playing music, creating art, raising children, growing and learning.

We recorded this conversation in the heart of last summer on a hot day before monsoon season, though we didn’t end up getting much monsoon rain last season and are gearing up for a dry summer again this year. We start this conversation informally in Wind’s earthen home, and then we go on a land and garden tour for the rest of the conversation. There are chicken, water, wind, bug. bird and fly sounds - so be aware this this episode is very auditorily full! There is a little wind interference in a few moment but we tried to cut that down in audio editing as best we could.

In this episode of the podcast, we talk about:

  • permaculture in the desert

  • how the adobes in western-central Colorado used to be a grassland before settler abuse (overgrazing sheep and mis-use of water)

  • Lots of nerdy dry-loving plant talk!

  • Gardening from the heart and not the head

  • The strength of taking it very slow when doing permaculture in the desert

  • Humans as appropriate disrupters on the landscape and that responsibility

  • We do a tour of the Forest Garden and note our observations

  • Wind discusses his perspective on invasion biology and permaculture

  • intentional community and opening the land into a new incarnation

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Wind’s website for Oasis Nursery

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Music: Ted Packard “Holy as Dirt”

Hosted and Produced by: Kelly Moody


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