Episode #62 of the Ground Shots Podcast features a conversation with Chama Woydak of Homegrown Families and Dancing Springs Farm, out of Asheville, North Carolina.
Chama and I have a relationship that spans over a decade, which began when I landed on her farm in 2012 to go to herbal medicine school. We ended up farming together for a few years before I hit the road, and I owe a lot of my knowledge about growing food and caring for animals to Chama who has dedicated the last few decades to these practices alongside her work as a doula and childbirth educator. As you’ll hear in this interview, her work as a farmer tending life and death is inextricably linked to her work as a doula re-humanizing care for others’ births in a society that doesn’t prioritize it or see it as vitally important.
In this conversation with Chama, we talk about:
- Chama’s journey into childbirth education and birthwork 
- The role of doulas in childbirth 
- The difference between a OBGYN, doula and midwife 
- The problematic nature of the medical industrial complex in relationship to birth 
- how doulas can re-humanize care in a culture and system that dehumanizes from the bottom up 
- raising the bar of birth experiences 
- the intricacies of complex medical trauma and how it trickles into our society 
- taking a restorative justice approach to birthwork 
- the connection between farming and birthwork 
- how tending space in nature can help teach us how to tend and care for our human systems (we are nature) 
- doula work is inherently justice work 
- the power of small adjustments and interactions in making big change and how tending land can teach us about this 
- how death and birth are parallel initiations 

 
             
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
     
      
      
    
  
  
    
    
    